Jun 09, 2005, 01:06 AM // 01:06
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#2
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Frost Gate Guardian
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I agree with you; Villainy is now the quest with the highest experience; 2k would've been way more appropriate.
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Jun 09, 2005, 01:10 AM // 01:10
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#3
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Academy Page
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If you can do one infusion run, you can do five. The extra four are a complete waste of time. Thankfully, it's getting less and less geared to those with no life, no job and no skill.
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Jun 09, 2005, 01:11 AM // 01:11
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#4
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Krytan Explorer
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Aahahahahah... 2 weeks ago people were ranting about the grind in the game, now (tnx god a little minority) they rant for the opposite reason. So now they're unmasked...they liked doing the same things over and over and over again. This is one of the most hilarious things I've ever seen in netgaming!
Keep up the good work Arenanet.
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Jun 09, 2005, 01:13 AM // 01:13
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#5
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Frost Gate Guardian
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I think the game play is just shifting away from the roleplaying a bit more radically now; The game (I would like to think) is evolving toward pvp more.
I like that alot; most of these updates are great work.
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Jun 09, 2005, 01:13 AM // 01:13
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#6
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Krytan Explorer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Pope
If you can do one infusion run, you can do five. The extra four are a complete waste of time. Thankfully, it's getting less and less geared to those with no life, no job and no skill.
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AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!
Sorry for the caps, it was needed....this man is a genius! This is a perfect definition of what Arenanet is going to do...
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Jun 09, 2005, 01:17 AM // 01:17
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#7
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Elite Guru
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Minnesota
Guild: Beguine Guild [BGN]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cerby
Todays patch officially made the game just too easy for me. Only 1 infusion run? now you can use signet of Capture on a DEAD hero and pick what you want? A rune trader? I think its time to head to another game, this one is now geared for people under 12.
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Hahaha. Troll.
Seriously, you don't honestly think any of the above makes the game any easier, do you? Certainly not in any significant way. As someone else said, if you can do one infusion run, you can do five, the extra four were not making the game any harder, just more tedious; therefore, removing the extra four runs doesn't make the game any easier, just less tedious. Likewise the Signet of Capture system has been made less tedious without in any way decreasing actual game difficulty. And as for runes, it's certainly more convenient to buy them from a trader than from a random trade channel player spamming WTS messages, but how has this affected the game difficulty?
The game is becoming more geared towards people over 25. People who have lives and jobs and children and more important things to do than rerun the same damn mission five times.
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Jun 09, 2005, 01:22 AM // 01:22
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#8
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Ascalonian Squire
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I have to agree with Cerby. Now....
IT'S CONSTRUCTIVE CRITISISM TIME!
If any action is made to make the game harder, the people who want to play an easy game will get angry.
If any action is made to make the game easier, the people who want to play a hard game will get angry.
My solution, have a server running modified rules (all execept PvP rules, which should remain unchanged) with hard bosses, and the old SoC system.
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Jun 09, 2005, 01:41 AM // 01:41
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#9
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: May 2005
Location: North Vancouver
Guild: TYSN
Profession: Mo/W
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There is a rune trader? Since when + where?
EDIT: oh, today? I haven't been on and wont be for a couple of days
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Jun 09, 2005, 01:42 AM // 01:42
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#10
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Somewhere, U.S.A.
Guild: Gold Pheonix
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since now + at least ascalon and lions arch.
EDIT:: wasnt sure, ascalon and lions arch were the only two places i've visited. I've since gotten off the game to let the hype die down a bit before returning.
Last edited by Madjik; Jun 09, 2005 at 02:00 AM // 02:00..
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Jun 09, 2005, 01:48 AM // 01:48
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#11
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Ascalonian Squire
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all of the "capitals" have them all the traders.
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Jun 09, 2005, 02:56 AM // 02:56
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#12
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2005
Location: You ever have to clean up after a Moa bird?
Guild: True Solunastra [SLA] Profession: Moa Wrangler
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I'd just like to take a moment to say that "roleplaying" is NOT grinding and farming.
I really have no interest in PvP, and believe me, I'm still extremely happy with this last update. PvE folks have real lives too, you know. ^-^
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Jun 09, 2005, 03:08 AM // 03:08
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#13
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Academy Page
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cerby
Todays patch officially made the game just too easy for me. Only 1 infusion run? now you can use signet of Capture on a DEAD hero and pick what you want? A rune trader? I think its time to head to another game, this one is now geared for people under 12.
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Hopefully you speak of a game like Natural Selection or Starcraft, rather than an even-less-skillful game like WoW or EQ2.
Grinding does not equal skill. Grinding is unnecessary monotony - a waste of time.
Or perhaps you'd like to explain how doing more than 1 infusion run - the exact same way each time - makes this game hard. Perhaps you'd also like to explain how farming mobs for Runes took skill, and not simple repetition. And lastly, explain what exactly was so hard about the old SoC system - personally I nearly never failed to cap a skill from a boss I wanted one from, so it certainly wasn't a particularly skilled aspect of the game.
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Jun 09, 2005, 03:27 AM // 03:27
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#14
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Texas
Guild: We Wear Sombreros [文文文], Ugly Ducklings [ugly]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Axehilt
Hopefully you speak of a game like Natural Selection or Starcraft, rather than an even-less-skillful game like WoW or EQ2.
Grinding does not equal skill. Grinding is unnecessary monotony - a waste of time.
Or perhaps you'd like to explain how doing more than 1 infusion run - the exact same way each time - makes this game hard. Perhaps you'd also like to explain how farming mobs for Runes took skill, and not simple repetition. And lastly, explain what exactly was so hard about the old SoC system - personally I nearly never failed to cap a skill from a boss I wanted one from, so it certainly wasn't a particularly skilled aspect of the game.
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Jun 09, 2005, 03:29 AM // 03:29
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#15
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: No Idea
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Well....doing ascenscion runs in 3 hours instead of the usual 4-5 is quite an accomplishment...
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Jun 09, 2005, 03:43 AM // 03:43
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#16
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Sir
Join Date: May 2005
Location: The Uk
Guild: Burnt Absolution
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
The game is becoming more geared towards people over 25. People who have lives and jobs and children and more important things to do than rerun the same damn mission five times.
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I totally agree. And I aint even in that catagory! I play this game cos I'm housebound, it's different every day and it keeps me interested.
This is not a pay monthly, grind filled, Pvp, farming NIGHTMARE of a MMORPG for 13-17 year old arrogant whelps. It's a game designed for those who've TRIED past MMORPG's and found them a little too immature. It's a game of strategy and I would suggest it to those who steer towards that genre when buying computer games. Anyone who doesn't like to think, doesn't like to work and likes it all handed to them on a platter easy as pie... will not like everything about this game.
And if you don't.. buy another one! It's that simple.
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Jun 09, 2005, 03:56 AM // 03:56
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#17
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: VA BABY
Guild: Morbid Anihillation
Profession: R/Me
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its not the fact of it being hard to cap a signet now its like your handed an elite skill rather than loading your cap signet in hopes of getting it and your group not dying before you get your skill, i for one had no problem with the old way , but now a-net makes it trivial to get elites, (ELITE) understand the meaning of the word, its not something thats supposed to be easy to get, and as for you whiners who are "CASUAL" gamers who whine about people who farm and stuff like that, im a father of a 2 yr old boy, work, and i still find time to sit and play GW, and farm a little until the patch now i cant farm jack cant get my 15k armor, unless i ebay some cash, (which i wont do btw) the whole rune thing is ultra dumb imo, i also am getting sick of this game, its trivial i have 3 lvl 20's what am i gonna do go make another character so i can run through the SAME missions and SAME quest and look at the SAME npc's and deal with the SAME nubs on a mission who cant listen to mesicde i did this mission 3 times before, and dont say unlock new spells because with my 20 i can sit there make skill pts and go do 2nd proff change and unlock all the skills in the world, i bought a second account for gw to play since i liked it so much a week ago, now.....im sorry i did that because after this update (which IMO is retarded) i wont be playing the game as much as i used to. i know it wont hurt a-net because they made their cash already (50$xALOT OF PEOPLE,AND COUNTING) dont get me wrong i like the game its setup nice the pvp is nice but i mean HANDING runes out is lame,now what can a lvl 20 look foward to? fighting in HoH? been there,done that,pvp char?,been there done that,starting a new char? lol for what?And for all the people who think their "HARDCORE RPGERS" who wanna talk smack i been playing rpgs for a loooong time, the games pointless now might as well just give everyone a sup rune of vigor.
My 2 cents
If you dont like it bite me
Shot Your Eye r/mo 20
Burning Hemrroid e/me 20
Big Bong HIt n/w 20
Tunrida (EQ) 65 Necro
Nasenbluten (Daoc) 43 BD
Nasenbluten (Lineage) 42 SE
Nasenbluten (DFC) Necro
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Jun 09, 2005, 04:03 AM // 04:03
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#18
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Sir
Join Date: May 2005
Location: The Uk
Guild: Burnt Absolution
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasenbluten
its not the fact of it being hard to cap a signet now its like your handed an elite skill rather than loading your cap signet in hopes of getting it and your group not dying before you get your skill, i for one had no problem with the old way , but now a-net makes it trivial to get elites, (ELITE) understand the meaning of the word, its not something thats supposed to be easy to get, and as for you whiners who are "CASUAL" gamers who whine about people who farm and stuff like that, im a father of a 2 yr old boy, work, and i still find time to sit and play GW, and farm a little until the patch now i cant farm jack cant get my 15k armor, unless i ebay some cash, (which i wont do btw) the whole rune thing is ultra dumb imo, i also am getting sick of this game, its trivial i have 3 lvl 20's what am i gonna do go make another character so i can run through the SAME missions and SAME quest and look at the SAME npc's and deal with the SAME nubs on a mission who cant listen to mesicde i did this mission 3 times before, and dont say unlock new spells because with my 20 i can sit there make skill pts and go do 2nd proff change and unlock all the skills in the world, i bought a second account for gw to play since i liked it so much a week ago, now.....im sorry i did that because after this update (which IMO is retarded) i wont be playing the game as much as i used to. i know it wont hurt a-net because they made their cash already (50$xALOT OF PEOPLE,AND COUNTING) dont get me wrong i like the game its setup nice the pvp is nice but i mean HANDING runes out is lame,now what can a lvl 20 look foward to? fighting in HoH? been there,done that,pvp char?,been there done that,starting a new char? lol for what?And for all the people who think their "HARDCORE RPGERS" who wanna talk smack i been playing rpgs for a loooong time, the games pointless now might as well just give everyone a sup rune of vigor.
My 2 cents
If you dont like it bite me
Shot Your Eye r/mo 20
Burning Hemrroid e/me 20
Big Bong HIt n/w 20
Tunrida (EQ) 65 Necro
Nasenbluten (Daoc) 43 BD
Nasenbluten (Lineage) 42 SE
Nasenbluten (DFC) Necro
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The post above yours.. at the end... this game aint for you, mate
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Jun 09, 2005, 04:17 AM // 04:17
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#19
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Tallahassee FL
Guild: Southeast Syndicate
Profession: Mo/Me
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Today's patch has TOTALLY made the game WAY to easy...it has nerfed the entire idea of working to make your character good. Heck, if I wanted to play a game where everyone was an uber character I'd play Call of Duty or any one of the other THOUSAND FPS's out there...next patch they may as well just unlock EVERYTHING, do away with pre searing altogether, open up the whole map and all the cities beacause evidently it's too hard for some people to actually PLAY the game...even better - just scrap the whole PVE part and just make it strictly PVP and all you just pick what mix of professions you want and you automatically have all the best skills etc...oh wait - that's called Unreal Tournament...
Last edited by Bobum; Jun 09, 2005 at 04:20 AM // 04:20..
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Jun 09, 2005, 04:23 AM // 04:23
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#20
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Sir
Join Date: May 2005
Location: The Uk
Guild: Burnt Absolution
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobum
Today's patch has TOTALLY made the game WAY to easy...it has nerfed the entire idea of working to make your character good. Heck, if I wanted to play a game where everyone was an uber character I'd play Call of Duty or any one of the other THOUSAND FPS's out there...
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Exactly how has it made it easy? Runes still cost money that most people don't have. The armor infuse run was just annoying to do it 5 times, not harder. Also remember that there may be big plans for this game, and they're just making the stuff now a bit easier to get cos new stuff could be on it's way in a few months.
People moan that they find it boring to level new chars up. Well now you know that when you find a minor rune or a mjor that no-one wants, you can sell it for some decent cash. Also that you can now apply runes to lower level characters. I think that's pretty neat. No more waiting till level 20 to start enjoy some benefits of the game.
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